Do Income and Education Matter in Blasian Couple Relationships?

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Some of the readers of this blog have asked me questions such as what attracts Asian women to Black men and how much does income and education have to do with it? Why do certain cities have more Blasian couple relationships than others?  What cities would Asian women find the richest and most educated Black men? Do Asian women primarily go after rich and highly educated Black men? What cities would Black men find the most or least educated Asian women, depending or their taste? Social scientists have determined that interracial couples tend to marry because of four important facts: shared common interests, the attractiveness of their partner, shared similar entertainment interests, and socioeconomic similarity. Social scientists have also noticed a trend in recent years for all married couples where people seem to be more and more marrying people with similar backgrounds to themselves, but how much do these trends identified by the social scientists come into play with Black and Asian couples? All of these are very interesting questions. While we may not answer all of these questions completely in this post, we will offer some perspectives for your consideration here.

One caveat though before we begin. Keep in mind that as we explore some of these interesting questions about Black men and Asian women relationships, let’s not lose sight of the fact that regardless of what the data says, at the end of the day, all it takes for any man and any woman to connect is chemistry and regular shared interactions. It’s easy to over think these kinds of questions, but let’s see what the data says. The intent here is not to necessarily discourage people, but rather to help people assess the facts and then build realistic strategies that fit their individual situation.

First let’s look at some city rankings for both Black men and Asian women using data from the 2013 US Census American Community Survey. This will give us a baseline for Black men and Asian women income and education levels. Also for those interested in Asian men, Black women relationships, we will try to explore those relationships in a future post.

Cities Ranked By Black Male and Asian Female Income

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Below are listings of US metro areas ranked by percent of Black men and Asian women with annual income in three different buckets, a) below $50K, b) between $50K to $100K, and c) above $100K. For both Black men and Asian women who are employed in the workforce, the majority make less than $50K per year. 74.3% or nearly 3 out of every 4 working Black men and 66.6% or about 2 out of every 3 working Asian women make less than $50K per year. Note that if you include non-working or unemployed individuals, these percentages would be higher, but for our purposes, we are focused on working individuals. On the other end of the spectrum, about 5% of Black men and just under 10% of Asian women make more than $100K per year.

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Some cities are in the same income bucket for both Black men and Asian women. For instance, in the income rankings over $100K, San Jose, CA, Oxnard CA, Washington DC, San Francisco, New York, Baltimore, and Houston are all in the top 15 for both Black men and Asian women. As such, these would be the top cities for high income Black men and Asian women to find each other. Ever wondered where you can find high concentrations of Black men or Asian women with decent to good incomes – well now you know where to look.

On average, in the 2013 census data, Asian women earned more than Black men in the US by about $5.5K annually, and today in 2015, that delta has grown to a $7.3K annual difference. Below are the top 10 cities where Black men earn more than Asian women and the top 10 cities where Asian women earn more than Black men.

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One natural question to ask when reviewing the income profiles and deltas for Black men and Asian women in different metros across the US is how much do these income profiles and deltas affect the number of Blasian couples in a given city. Many different factors impact the metro rankings for Black men and Asian women income including the economic strength of the city, the employer and job base in the city, and the demographic effects of race and sex. In these kind of multiple factor situations, statistics can help us test for relationships between different factors. After considering several different income profiles and deltas for Asian women, no relationship was found between a city’s Asian women income profile and the number or concentration of Blasian couple relationships. A city’s income delta between Asian women and Black men also showed no relationship to the number or concentration of Blasian couple relationships in that city. This somewhat goes against the belief you hear from some people that only places with lower income Asian women will have Blasian couples. This belief is not true and the data shows that Blasian relationships cut across all cities regardless of their Asian female income profile.

The same was not true when we looked Black men income profiles by city. The testing found a negative correlation between cities with the highest concentration of Black men with income under $50K and Blasian couple relationships, meaning that the higher the concentration of Black men with income under $50K, the fewer Blasian couples you see in that city. The testing also found a significantly positive correlation between cities with the highest concentration of Black men with income between $50K and $100K and Blasian couple relationships, and a weaker positive correlation was found between cities with the highest concentration of Black men with income over $100K and Blasian couple relationships. In other words, Blasian couples are much more likely to occur in places where a large concentration of Black men make between $50K to $100K, and Blasian couples are much less likely to occur in places where a large concentration of Black men make less than $50K a year. It’s also noteworthy that Blasian couples are not necessarily more likely to occur in cities with a high concentration of Black men making more than $100K. One speculation for this is that Black men with annual income over $100K have lots of options for relationships, and they do not just focus as much on Asian women at that income level. Certainly for instance, when you look at Black professional athletes, they have many options and very few of them end up with Asian women – see listings of Celebrity Asian and Black Couples here. These statistics imply that Black men who are interested in Asian women should gravitate to cities with high concentrations of Black men having income over $50K annually (the right two columns of the list of cities ranked for Black men income above) and avoid places with high concentrations of Black men with income less than $50K annually (the left column of the list of cities ranked for Black men income above). Obviously you can always find exceptions to these findings, but the statistics describe the most likely scenario.

For comparison purposes, we also looked at similar statistics for White men income and White men and Asian women relationships. In this case, the statistics did not find any relationship between cities with various profiles of White men income and Whasian couple relationships, but there was a strong negative correlation between cities with high concentrations of Asian women with income less than $25K and Whasian couple relationships. This would imply that White men are less likely to pursue Whasian relationships in cities with high levels of very low income Asian women. The comparison shows that while Blasian couple relationships generally decline when a city’s concentration of lower income Black men grows, Whasian couple relationships continue to prosper even in cities with high concentrations of lower income White men. It’s very likely that due to typical Asian family objections, Asian women have to pay more attention to the man’s income level when she dates Black men, and likely doesn’t have to worry about this as much when she dates White men.

Individual Income Levels In Blasian Couple Relationships

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Having considered the impact of income on Blasian relationships at the city level, we next looked at data for Blasian couples at the individual level. While it is not easy to analyze, the US census provides individual and household level data for Blasian households at the individual level. So far we have only analyzed a sample portion of this data, but the sample accounts for roughly 10% of all Blasian couple households in the US. Both Asian women and Black men income and education levels in the 10% sample we have analyzed so far are very similar to the overall US profiles we shared above. So while we are still early in our analysis of Blasian couples at the individual level, the sample data appears to be consistent with and representative of the total population data for our purposes here.

In our analysis of Blasian couples at an individual level, we found no difference in the income profiles for Asian women in Blasian couples and the income profile for Asian women in the broader sample. In other words, their was essentially no difference in income distribution between Asian women involved in Blasian couples and Asian women not involved in Blasian couples. The story for Black men was very different though. The income distribution for Black men in Blasian couples is significantly skewed to higher income levels as some might guess. Whereas 5% of Black men in the US make $100K or more annually, 12% of Black men in Blasian couple relationships make $100K or more annually. Likewise while 26% of Black men in the US make $50K or more annually, a full 44% of Black men in Blasian couple relationships make $50K or more annually. On average, Black men in Blasian couple relationships make nearly $30K a year more than the average Black man in the US. Once again, the implication is that income matters when Asian women consider Blasian couple relationships.

We also looked at a 2006 study by professors at University of Chicago and MIT where they used in-depth dating site data to try to determine what causes people to date one person versus another person. People often verbally indicate certain preferences for people that they want to date, however the dating site data gives us very valuable insight into what people actually value in real life dating, regardless of their stated preferences. This is important because many times people are attracted to dating partners in real life that are very different from the dating partners they say they want to find in their profiles. Among the many findings of this research, the professors found that women in particular, of all races, strongly preferred to date men of their own race, regardless of how open they said they were to dating other races in their profiles. They also found that if certain compensating factors existed – like income, education, or looks, that women would equally date men of other races.

The one finding from their research which was widely publicized at the time had to do with how White women would equally date other races if the ethnic men made more money than the average White guy. In particular, their research found that White women would equally date Hispanic men if they made $77K more than White men, or equally date Black men if they made $154K more than White men, or equally date Asian men if they made $247K more than White men. This study finding was widely quoted at the time of the study in 2006. Certainly you see this finding play out with Black sports celebrities where it is not uncommon for them to have their choice of White women to date, in large part driven by the size of their paychecks.

However one of the study findings from this same study that received next to no publicity in the media was how Asian women behaved in this same regard. How much more income would a guy have to make before Asian women would equally consider them over Asian men? Well, the findings were as follows: Asian women will equally date White men when they make $24K less than Asian men, equally date Black men when they make the same as Asian men, and equally date Hispanic men when they make $28K more than Asian men. Keep in mind that Asian men earn more than any other group in America at an average $56K annually, which is about $9K more than the average White guy, $20K more than the average Black guy, and $24K more than the average Hispanic guy. So a Black guy would need to make about $56K annually on average to be equally considered by an Asian woman,  which also ties closely to the data above which showed that cities needed high concentrations of Black men making at least $50K to start to drive the number of Blasian couple relationships.

Finally, I think the other important finding from this study is that Asian women appear to far less driven by the man’s income compared to White women. The income deltas for Asian women to date men of a different race are much lower than the deltas for White women to date a different race. While Asian women apparently clearly have a soft spot for dating White men, as seen by the fact that they will date lower income White men equally with Asian men or Black men with higher incomes, the fact that Asian women date Asian men and Black men equally at the same income level is a significant statement. Especially compared to White women who apparently need Black men to make $154K more before they become interesting.

Cities Ranked By Black Male and Asian Female Education

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Looking at the education levels for Black men and Asian women, you can not help but be impressed with Asian women educational achievements. Asian families clearly put tremendous focus and pressure on their kids to excel academically and Asian women with about 50% bachelor degrees and 18% graduate degrees are the second most educated group in America only behind Asian men. Black men come in with about 19% bachelor degrees and about 6% graduate degrees, but as the charts show below, these numbers shoot up to over 35% bachelor degrees and over 20% graduate degrees in certain cities.

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In terms of the differences in education by city, it’s a grim comparison. There are no major metros in the US where as a percentage, Black men have more bachelor degrees than Asian women. The two with the smallest education gap are Honolulu where 27% of Black men have bachelor degrees compared to 34% of Asian women for a delta of 7 percentage points, and Stockton, CA, where 18% of Black men have a bachelor’s degree compared to 25% of Asian women. For graduate degrees, Black men have more graduate degrees than Asian women as a percentage in three cities: McAllen, TX with 21% vs. 10%, Colorado Springs with 7.1% vs 6.4%, and Stockton, CA with 5.2% vs. 5.1%. Every other major metro has more Asian women graduate degree holders as a percentage than Black men.

So at the city level, do these large educational differences make a difference when it comes to number of Blasian couples in a city. The statistical testing found no relationship between either Asian women educational levels, Black men educational levels, or the differences between their educational levels and Blasian couple relationships. In other words, the level of education for Asian women and Black men in a city seems to have no bearing on the number of Blasian couples found there.

Individual Education Levels In Blasian Couple Relationships

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At an individual level in Blasian relationships, things are different. Whereas nearly 50% of Asian women nationwide hold a bachelor’s degree or better, only 25% of Asian women in Blasian couple relationships have earned a bachelor’s degree or better. We see the reverse trend with Black men. Nationwide, about 19% of Black men hold bachelor degrees or better, but in Blasian couple relationships, 27% of Black men hold bachelor degrees or better. At first glance it may look like educated Asian women are just matching up with educated Black men in Blasian couple relationships, but indeed with a closer look at the data, we find that Asian women only have better education than their Black male partner 35% of the time. Black men are better educated in 42% of Blasian relationships and the other 23% of the time, the two partners have the same education level. When considering US average spousal education levels, 21% of US wives are better educated compared to the 35% better educated Asian women in Blasian relationships. The average US husband is better educated 20% of the time compared to the 42% better educated Black men in Blasian relationships. Also the trend towards more marriages being with partners of the same education level which is found in 59% of US marriages, does not seem to have made it Blasian relationships yet, where partners have the same education level only 23% of the time. Indeed, it appears that Blasian couple relationships are more traditional in this sense.

Also despite, Asian women generally earning higher incomes than Black men in America, in Blasian couples, only 27% of Asian women make more money than their Black men partners. This lags the US average of 38% of US wives earning more than their husbands. So for both education and income, despite Asian women generally having higher levels of both than Black men across the US, in Blasian couples, Asian women appear to predominately seek Black men with better education and better earnings than themselves in the more traditional ways of relationships and marriage.

Summary

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Again, while all of the analysis is interesting and even fun to numbers oriented people such as myself, as stated earlier in this post, we can not lose sight of the simple fact that successful relationships are often built on chemistry and regular shared interactions – regardless of what the numbers may tell us. Let’s not over think things. Do income and education levels matter in Blasian couple relationships – the data is clear that yes, they matter quite a bit. At the same time, both Asian women and Black men come in an entire spectrum from not so much income and education to lots of income and education, so it’s really just about finding the right person in the spectrum for you. Once you find the right person, much of this just will not matter, even though it’s all very interesting.

Keep in mind also that many Asian women are still somewhat traditional and regardless of their success with income and education, many of them still want traditional relationships where their partner will be equally if not more successful than them in both income and education. Given the success of Asian women in the US, this can be a tall order in some cases, but then again there is an entire spectrum of Asian women with different desires. Sure Asian women may go for White guys with less income and less education as the data suggests, but the slightly higher hurdle for Black guys is not insurmountable. For guys and girls who are having difficulty finding the right person, remember that the world is a big place, and that sometimes you just have to adjust your sights and look beyond the four corners of your city, state, country, or continent to find the right person for you where the chemistry, the shared interests, and all of the socioeconomic factors line up in perfect harmony.

Hopefully this post answers some of the reader’s questions and gives you a fresh perspective and honest facts to consider for your individual situation. As always, I wish everyone all the best, and welcome your comments below or through the contact us page.

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